Scion trying to build business case for FR-S convertible as Subaru bows out

Scion trying to build business case for FR-S convertible as Subaru bows out

January 28, 2014 by · Leave a Comment 

Filed under: Concept Cars , Convertible , Budget , Performance , Scion , Subaru , Toyota Hope may remain for a convertible version of the Scion FR-S , according to a report from Ward’s Auto . You’ll recall that rumors were swirling about the feasibility of a rear-drive Toyobaru convertible as early as October , and that back in November, Subaru – which makes the FR-S, Subaru BRZ and Toyota GT86 – essentially nixed the idea of an open-topped variant . “We make the car, so if we don’t make it, it can’t happen,” brand chief Yasuyuki Yoshinaga told Automotive News , according to Ward’s , at the Tokyo Motor Show . “Our engineering department told me that losing the entire roof requires a complete redesign of the structure. It would need a big change.” Despite Yoshinaga-san’s arguments against a droptop variant, Toyota is apparently still considering the model. Speaking to media at the 2014 North American International Auto Show , Scion’s US vice president, Doug Murtha, hinted that the rear-drive droptop was in the works. “It’s something we’re looking at internally from both a manufacturing standpoint – where do we build something that’s relatively low-volume, if not at Subaru – and from an engineering standpoint: Where are those resources going to come from to do it?” Murtha said. For now, it appears as if Toyota is merely doing its homework on the feasibility of a production version of the FT-86 Open Concept from the 2013 Geneva and Tokyo shows (show above). “Everybody’s had to pony up their volumes and we’ll see if we can make it happen,” Murtha told Wards . Whether the volumes check out or not, the question of how Toyota will get around the engineering issues – making a convertible safe – and figuring out where to build it, mean that while our hopes for an FR-S Convertible are higher, the car still faces a rather rocky road before reaching production.

Toyota FT-86 Open Concept leaves us feeling flushed

Toyota FT-86 Open Concept leaves us feeling flushed

November 21, 2013 by · Leave a Comment 

Filed under: Concept Cars , Convertible , Performance , Japan , Tokyo Motor Show , Toyota When last we checked in on our topless would-be hero, the Toyota FT-86 convertible had been reportedly placed on “indefinite hold .” That was back in early October, not long after Toyota had trotted out the rear-wheel-drive canvasback to Scion dealers as a possible future product carrot if they decided not to turn in their franchises. And yet, we’re here at the Tokyo Motor Show , where Toyota has taken the time to at least repaint the FT-86 Open Concept in “Flash Red,” if not build a whole other car (the original Geneva showcar was white ). It’s enough to make our heads spin like a teenager on the verge of a breakup. Will they? Won’t they? At this point, we still don’t know any more than you do – the last word we heard out of Toyota was not encouraging, although the story was that the program could still be fast-tracked if management had a change of heart. As the car has never been seen before in Japan, perhaps Toyota is merely extending its domestic audience a courtesy view before it lines this showcar in mothballs, or maybe they’re still trying to make a decision on its fate and gauging public reaction on the homefront. Interestingly, in a new story published today, Automotive News quotes Subaru brand boss Yasuyuki Yoshinaga downplaying the likelihood of a production model, saying flatly “We make the car, so if we don’t make it, it can’t happen.” The executive went on to note, “Our engineering department told me that losing the entire roof requires a complete redesign of the structure. It would need a big change.” Given that such a car would probably trade in rather small volumes, that sounds like a significant hurtle. Either way, this FT-86 Open Concept wears red paint rather fetchingly – and we think a Scion FR-S or a Subaru BRZ would look every inch as compelling, too.

Toyota GT86 convertible on ‘indefinite hold’

Toyota GT86 convertible on ‘indefinite hold’

October 5, 2013 by · Leave a Comment 

Filed under: Car Buying , Concept Cars , Convertible , Scion , Subaru , Toyota Bad news, sportscar fans. According to a new report from What Car? , Toyota has cancelled plans to produce a GT86 convertible, a model based on the FT-86 Open Concept that debuted at the 2013 Geneva Motor Show . In truth, Toyota never actually confirmed it would produce the budget-friendly droptop in the first place, but rumors have been flying since last year and Toyota reportedly showed its embattled Scion dealers a FR-S version of the convertible in August . Presumably, this means that a lidless variant of the Subaru BRZ is not in the cards, either. The reason for the move is unknown, though What Car? reports “one possible cause is weight; Toyota did say that further work would be required on rigidity before the convertible could be launched, and that could have added extra bulk that conflict with the regular GT86′s ethos of light weight and agile handling.” It doesn’t look like that work will happen anytime soon, as “sources now say that the car has now been delayed indefinitely, with no place in Toyota’s product plan in either 2014 or 2015.” Still holding out hope? What Car? says the project could be “fast-tracked” if management decides it wants to reboot the program down the road. one possible cause is weight; Toyota did say that further work would be required on rigidity before the convertible could be launched, and that could have added extra bulk that conflict with the regular GT86′s ethos of light weight and agile handling.

Autocar pits McLaren MP4-12C against turbo Toyota GT86

August 30, 2013 by · Leave a Comment 

Filed under: Motorsports , Coupe , Performance , Videos , Scion , Subaru , Toyota , UK , Racing , Comparisons , McLaren The Toyota GT86 , in all of its forms, is one of the best-handling cars money can buy, a trait that can put a smile on the faces of all but the most jaded car enthusiasts. But if good handling isn’t what they’re looking for, then what is? Our first guess would have to be more power, something the 200-horsepower Toyota would benefit from. Autocar tries out that theory by driving two turbocharged GT86s on track, then pitting the more powerful one against the 616-hp McLaren MP4-12C in a track battle. The first GT86 turbo Autocar ‘s Steve Sutcliffe drives makes around 255 rear-wheel horsepower and a bucket-load more torque than the stock car. That’s plenty of power to either have a lot of fun or get into a lot of trouble. But the GT86 that Sutcliffe tails in the McLaren is race-prepped, stripped to the bone and wears slicks to harness a heavy-hitting 335 hp at the wheel. Weighing in at under 2,500 pounds, the Toyota can’t overcome the MP4-12C’s power-to-weight ratio of 5.3 pounds per horsepower, but it comes pretty close. Enjoy a lot of chasing and drifting fun in the video below ! Continue reading Autocar pits McLaren MP4-12C against turbo Toyota GT86 Autocar pits McLaren MP4-12C against turbo Toyota GT86 originally appeared on Autoblog on Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:58:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds .

Toyota 86 most likely to get more power through more displacement? [w/poll]

Toyota 86 most likely to get more power through more displacement? [w/poll]

August 22, 2013 by · Leave a Comment 

Filed under: Coupe , Performance , Scion , Subaru , Toyota The Sydney Morning Herald has spoken to Tetsuya Tada, chief engineer of the Toyota 86 (our version of it, the Scion FR-S , is pictured above), and they’ve been promised that more power is on the way. We’ve heard a lot of speculation about a more powerful Toyobaru since before the standard model was even launched. The only question now is how the power will be delivered, and among the engine concepts we’ve already heard about – turbo, supercharger, twin-charged, hybrid – is a new one: more displacement. Tada said that an engine with more displacement than the current coupe’s 2.0 liters is being tested alongside a turbocharged and a hybrid-assisted motor. The SMH cites “inside sources” as saying the displacement option is the one likely to get the go-ahead, and suggests increased bore and stroke will see the engine grow to 2.5 liters, horsepower to about 250 – a 50-hp increase over the present car. While that’s apparently the betting man’s solution for the long-awaited increase in gumption, what happens with the next generation could be more wide open than we suspected. According to the report, Tada “hinted that [a successor] could be a radically different car, potentially dropping the boxer engine altogether.” He said once they’ve sorted out the concept for the second generation car, then they’ll sort out an engine. That’s where a turbo option could come to market, perhaps the turbocharged four-cylinder Toyota is developing for the Lexus NX crossover or a hybrid system that uses a capacitor. This leaves us wondering what, if anything, will happen with the (presumed) next generation of the Subaru BRZ . But for now, the cavalry – more horses – is on the way for the current generation, one way or another.

Is the Subaru BRZ STI being teased really only a tS version?

Is the Subaru BRZ STI being teased really only a tS version?

August 6, 2013 by · Leave a Comment 

Filed under: Coupe , Performance , Scion , Subaru , Toyota , Rumormill Teaser images of a purported Subaru BRZ STI were uncovered last night and sent the internet into a collective state of hysterics. That’s not hugely surprising, though, considering the reverence that the BRZ, along with its fraternal twins, the Scion FR-S and Toyota GT86, have garnered from the automotive media. The sole sticking point, really, has been its mere 200 horsepower. People have been chomping at the bit over a higher output version of the sublime rear driver. Those same people may be in for a disappointment, though. See, the BRZ STI that was teased last night might not be a real STI. Instead, it’s looking like it might be a BRZ tS. According to 7Tune.com , the timing of the photos posted on Subaru’s website lined up with Subaru’s 86 Festival at Fuji Speedway , where the Subaru BRZ tS debuted. Despite wearing STI badges, the tS isn’t the full-tilt STI model we’ve been hoping for. Instead, you can think of the relationship between tS models and STI models as sort of like the difference between a BMW 3 Series M Sport and a BMW M3.

Ford Fiesta ST in startling track battle against Toyota GT86

Ford Fiesta ST in startling track battle against Toyota GT86

June 27, 2013 by · Leave a Comment 

Filed under: Coupe , Performance , Videos , Hatchback , Ford , Scion , Subaru , Toyota On the surface, there’s very little that the Ford Fiesta ST and Toyota GT86 (or the Scion FR-S that is sold in the US, or the largely similar Subaru BRZ ) share in common. One is a hatchback with power coming from a turbocharged engine routed to the front wheels. The other is a coupe with power coming from a naturally aspirated four-cylinder boxer engine routed to the rear wheels. Thing is, both of them are reasonably priced performance cars aimed at a similar segment of the automotive marketplace, so a comparison isn’t out of the question. It is with all of this in mind that we direct you to the video below , in which the blokes from Evo pit the two manic little machines against one another on a race track. The result? Well, it can be summed up this way: Fast versus fun. See how the track battle goes down in the video below . Continue reading Ford Fiesta ST in startling track battle against Toyota GT86 Ford Fiesta ST in startling track battle against Toyota GT86 originally appeared on Autoblog on Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:44:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds .

Toyota GT86 GT4 racer is ready for UK competition

Toyota GT86 GT4 racer is ready for UK competition

February 5, 2013 by · Leave a Comment 

Filed under: Motorsports , Coupe , Performance , Toyota , UK , Racing It’s about time we saw someone cook up a legitimate race version of the delectable Toyota GT86 , and now it looks as if GPRM has done just that. The Buckingham-based race engineering team has built the creation you see here, complete with a turbocharged 2.0-liter, direct-injection four-cylinder boxer cooked up by Nicholson McLaren Engines. The team says the new mill delivers between 360 and 400 horsepower to the rear wheels depending on final testing, which is a sight bit more than the 197 horses the naturally aspirated stock mill offers. The car will compete in GT4 events, including the Avon Tyres British GT Championship. Technically, the GPRM effort isn’t factory backed, but the team says the effort “has the blessing of Toyota Great Britain.” How could it not? You can check out the brief press release below below , and be sure to take a closer look at the machine in our gallery. Continue reading Toyota GT86 GT4 racer is ready for UK competition Toyota GT86 GT4 racer is ready for UK competition originally appeared on Autoblog on Tue, 05 Feb 2013 11:30:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds . Permalink

Toyota GT86 spends time with its ancestors

Toyota GT86 spends time with its ancestors

December 28, 2011 by · Leave a Comment 

Filed under: Coupe , Performance , Etc. , Japan , Videos , Toyota Toyota is out to draw parallels between the company’s new GT86 sports car and some of the legends of the automaker’s past. A new video depicting the new coupe’s development spends plenty of time with the GT86 on screen with the likes of the Toyota Sports 800 and even the AE86. Those are both fine sparring partners for a vehicle that prides itself on superior handling over outright brawn. Watching engineers cane the GT86 around the world’s various road courses only stokes our desire for a little more time with the either of the two-door’s corporate cousins. As you may recall, the Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ both left favorable impressions on us during our recent drives, but we could use a full week’s worth of sideways action to figure out whether those pieces of hardware are worthy of sharing tarmac with the likes of the legendary AE86. Hit the jump to take a look. Continue reading Toyota GT86 spends time with its ancestors Toyota GT86 spends time with its ancestors originally appeared on Autoblog on Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:59:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds . Permalink

Toyota considering Supra successor and sub-86 sports car

Toyota considering Supra successor and sub-86 sports car

December 5, 2011 by · Leave a Comment 

Filed under: Coupe , Performance , Etc. , Japan , Tokyo Motor Show , Subaru , Toyota Toyota is flush with buzz surrounding the company’s new 86 sports car, and that could translate into additional performance models if the vehicle’s chief engineer has anything to say about it. The Sydney Morning Herald reports that Tetsuya Tada, the mind that brought the Toyota 86 to life, believes there’s room in the stable for two additional sports cars. Tada is quoted as saying that while the 86 is a mid-sized sports car, he’d like to see one vehicle positioned below the boxer-powered coupe as well as an additional model slotted higher in the lineup. The latter machine could potentially be a successor to the Supra , complete with a high-horsepower engine and rear wheel drive. Like the 86, that vehicle would be another collaborative project between Toyota and Subaru . Unfortunately, Tada is quick to say that nothing has been decided as of yet. Keep your fingers crossed. Toyota considering Supra successor and sub-86 sports car originally appeared on Autoblog on Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:03:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds .

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